The Future of Spider-Man and the MCU


(downhearted) Hello everyone. 😦

Welcome to ‘Bradley’s Basement’ blog and I’m Tim Bradley.

Sorry if I seem currently dejected but…did you hear about the latest news regarding Spider-Man being taken out of the ‘Marvel Cinematic Universe’? (Pause) All because of a fallout between certain studios that can’t reach a deal to make the next ‘Spider-Man’ movie? (Pause) WHAT’S GOING ON?!!!

I have made it clear in my reviews for both ‘Spider-Man: Homecoming’ and ‘Spider-Man: Far From Home’ that I’m not a fan of the ‘MCU’ version of Spider-Man. This is due to the creative choices made in terms of incorporating Spidey into the ‘MCU’ as they make his movies less ‘Spider-Man’-orientated.

But with that said, I have enjoyed these latest ‘Spider-Man’ movies. They’re not faithful adaptations of the original ‘Spider-Man’ comics in my opinion, but for what it’s worth they have been entertaining. I’ve enjoyed watching these movies at the cinema and on DVD, despite noticing various flaws in them.

And clearly fans and audiences have warmed to these ‘Spider-Man’ movies lately as they’re outraged by the decision made to take the web-slinging superhero out of the ‘MCU’. Despite me not being a fan of the ‘MCU’ Spider-Man, I wouldn’t wish it for these films to stop as they have been pretty enjoyable.

Even though, I’ll always regard Tobey Maguire’s era as the best era of ‘Spider-Man’, I do like Tom Holland as the web-slinger. It seems a shame Tom Holland’s era might be short-lived, even if Sony are still making a ‘Spidey’ film with him in it. This is despite the ‘MCU’ elements that created his version of Spidey.

It does boggle me that companies like Sony, Disney and Marvel Studios would fall out with each other over a dispute regarding who shares the profits once these movies make money. Bear in mind though, I’m not sure I totally comprehend the financial situation as it does seem complicated from where I am.

But this is what I’ve been able to gather. Sony seems to want more of the profits compared to Marvel Studios. Marvel Studios doesn’t seem to be willing to agree to Sony’s deal. Thus, Sony have taken Spider-Man out of the ‘MCU’. They’ll still make live-action ‘Spidey’ films but without Marvel Studios’ input.

I’ve also picked up that Disney is somewhat responsible in the dispute between Sony and Marvel Studios not reaching a deal to make a ‘Spider-Man’ movie together because of their money-making agenda. But then again, I could have my wires crossed about this and misunderstood the situation.

Whatever the case, there’s clearly disagreement on all sides behind-the-scenes between studios in terms of creative control and in terms of the money-making being made. This is a shame, considering that the latest films for the ‘MCU’ series have achieved certain box office records this year.

Think about it! Both ‘Avengers: Endgame’ and ‘Spider-Man: Far From Home’ have been huge in terms of making money. Despite the issues I have regarding storytelling and character development in these movies, they’ve made an astounding profit. A pity that Sony and Disney don’t see the benefits of that.

Again, I might be misconstruing this. But it seems to me that Sony and Disney don’t have their heads screwed on in terms of maintaining a stable working relationship to make these ‘Spider-Man’ movies in partnership with each other. They seem to be seeking the money-making first over everything else.

And yes, I know a business needs to make money. That seems to be the sad reality of life nowadays. But again, it’s a shame that certain companies can’t see eye-to-eye with each other when they make a product in partnership with each other. There seems to be a lot of politicking going on in this regard.

Mind you, there has been this problem regarding ‘Spider-Man’ being made into movies over the years since the first ‘Spider-Man’ movie was made in 2002 by Sam Raimi. Spider-Man is currently owned by Sony since Columbia Pictures acquired the film rights for the Marvel superhero character back in 1997.

Thus, whenever a ‘Spider-Man’ movie gets made, Sony has to be the company to distribute and finance it, whether Marvel Studios and Disney are involved or not. Sony has had a reputation over the years in terms of making movies. Now whether you view it as a good or bad reputation, that’s really up to you.

But when Sony makes movies of certain properties say like the Smurfs or the Angry Birds, they make a ton of money out of them. This in spite of the fact that those movies don’t entirely agree with everyone watching them. That’s truly the case with the ‘Peter Rabbit’ film that was released last year.

Now don’t get me wrong, I like the ‘Peter Rabbit’ movie a lot and I’m currently looking forward to the sequel next year. But the point I’m trying to make here is that Sony seems to depend on the money-making aspects of movies as opposed to how audiences and critics give varying reviews on those films.

It’s astonishing then that Sony seems to be greedy on getting most of the profits from the ‘Spider-Man’ movies with Marvel Studios’ input whereas they could easily make more ‘Spider-Man’ movies without Marvel Studios’ involvement too. I mean, they released a ‘Spider-Man’ film already last Christmas.

Yeah! Remember that one? ‘Spider-Man: Into The Spider-Verse’! How did that film turn out? It was a box office success! They’re even making a sequel to that CGI animated movie! The possibilities for more ‘Spider-Man’ movies without Marvel Studios’ involvement are endless. The potential is there, is it not?

Sony can still make a ‘Spider-Man’ movie without Marvel Studios whilst also working with them to make ‘MCU’ movies with Spider-Man in them at the same time. It’s no big deal. They can still make both Marvel Studios-related and non Marvel Studios-related ‘Spider-Man’ films in order to make a profit.

I mean, look at ‘Venom’…um, yeah, okay. Well, we all know how that turned out. That’s a pretty bad example, even though it made a ton of money and is getting a sequel for some odd reason. Seriously that was an awful movie! But the point still stands. Non-‘MCU’ movies with ‘Spider-Man’ are possible!

Sony doesn’t have to be greedy to get more of the profits compared to how Marvel Studios are doing with getting the money for their ‘MCU’ movies. With that said, Disney is no better. Like Sony, Disney is a notorious movie-making company that currently seems to be seeking profit rather than substance.

As indicated in my ‘Aladdin’ (2019) review, Disney seems lately to be dependent on making movies that make a lot of profit. This includes live-action remakes and CGI-animated films whether they’d be Pixar or not. They also own Marvel Studios, 20th Century Fox and ‘Star Wars’. Those properties weren’t originally theirs.

Nevertheless, Disney owns them and seems to be making a lot of money out of the movies being made by those properties. This can be viewed as a good or a bad thing. And seeing how ‘Last Jedi’ turned out dividing ‘Star Wars’ fans against each other, Disney’s reputation has become tainted nowadays.

That doesn’t seem to worry Disney though, because as long as the films they distribute keep making money, then they’re happy. They’ll keep making more films to make money despite the varying reception on the movies they make. That’s how bad things have become in terms of how movies are being made.

And it seems that the ‘MCU’ is going in the same direction. The movies being made and the money they make means that Disney and Marvel Studios will keep making them to make more money. I mean, look out Phase 4 is turning out. We have five ‘MCU’ films to look forward to in the next couple of years.

It also seems that Phases 5 and 6 are being conceived in advance with new versions of the Fantastic Four and the X-Men featuring in their own ‘MCU’ movies. Even a third ‘Guardians of the Galaxy’ movie is being made. This is despite the fact that we don’t know whether we’re going to like these new films.

This brings me onto something I’ve wanted to address for a long time. And I know lots of people won’t agree with me on this viewpoint as they like the ‘MCU’ so much. But hear me out here! (Pause) Marvel Studios needs to stop making movies! And I don’t mean indefinitely. I just mean for a short while here.

We have been getting too many superhero movies lately, which isn’t always a good thing. Back in the days when the ‘MCU’ was in Phases 1 and 2, we had two movies per year. Nowadays, we’ve been getting three per year. The quality of storytelling and characters in the recent ‘MCU’ films has varied.

I know we’ll be having two movies for 2020, but we’ll be going back to three movies again per year for 2021. I am concerned about the quality we’ve been getting in these ‘MCU’ films. They have varied in terms of the tone and the pacing. ‘MCU’ films are rather hit and miss for me nowadays, which shouldn’t be the case.

On the plus side, I do find the ‘Captain America’ movies to be epic and excellent films. I found ‘Black Panther’ to be quite epic. But there are ‘MCU’ movies where the tone tends to be overly comedic. This is the case for films like ‘Thor: Ragnarok’ and the two ‘MCU Spider-Man’ films made recently.

I raise these concerns because if the ‘MCU’ movies are going to go into more comedic territory rather than actual character drama, it’s likely people will lose interest and become sick of these films. This is particularly the case with certain ‘MCU’ characters now gone and people having grown to love them.

I’m especially talking about Steve Rogers/Captain America who’s now old and likely to die as well as Tony Stark/Iron Man who’s now dead. There’s also the Hulk who…has gone on a totally downhill route in ‘Avengers: Endgame’…as well as Thor…who is also in the same manner as Hulk in comedic territory.

Okay, look. I could be wrong about this. Maybe the next ‘Black Widow’ movie will be very good in 2020. Maybe I’ll like the second ‘Doctor Strange’ film. Perhaps ‘The Eternals’ will be an interesting new set of superheroes when they arrive in their own movie. Maybe ‘Thor: Love and Thunder’…yeah, well…

I’m not sure what to make of that movie yet. Perhaps it’ll be good with Natalie Portman in the main role. Though considering Taika Waititi is directing the movie, it’s probably going to end up like ‘Thor: Ragnarok’ isn’t it? But the point stands, Marvel Studios needs to have a rest from making ‘MCU’ films.

If Marvel Studios keeps on making ‘MCU’ movies every year, they’re going to lose creditability in terms of tones and pacing. The reason I love the original ‘Spider-Man’ movies by Sam Raimi is because they were believable in terms of character and drama. The latest ‘MCU’ films do not have that same quality.

Going back to Spider-Man, there seems to be some dispute about whether Sony, Disney and Marvel Studios will re-negotiate and come up with a better deal to please the fans. I don’t know what’s in future for Spider-Man in movies. I’m saddened and disappointed of course, but I’m trying not to worry.

I would like to see a future ‘Spider-Man’ movie with Tom Holland. Whether it’ll be set in the ‘MCU’ or not, I don’t know. But it seems a shame that Spidey won’t be involved in the ‘MCU’ series anymore. This is especially when things got set up at the end of ‘Far From Home’ to make the third film possible.

Because of this, my interest in the ‘MCU’ will wane as a result with Spidey not taking part in it anymore. The reason why I took an interest in the ‘MCU’ properly was because Spider-Man made his appearance in it. With him gone, it’s likely the ‘MCU’ will underperform and not make much profit as they used to.

Mind you, if you were to ask me what I would really like to see in terms of a future ‘Spider-Man’ movie on the big screen, I would say…do ‘Spider-Man 4’! Yeah! Even after all these years, I still want to see a fourth ‘Spider-Man’ film directed by Sam Raimi, starring Tobey Maguire and Kirsten Dunst. This can happen!

I know people are still swept by the ‘MCU’ Spider-Man, but I still want to see a ‘Spider-Man 4’ at the cinema. I’d like to know what happened to Peter and Mary Jane after the events of ‘Spider-Man 3’. Did they get married? Did they have a daughter? What happened to Aunt May? What happened to Jameson?

Heck, Jameson was in ‘Spider-Man: Far From Home’ recently. The possibility of a ‘Spider-Man’ movie featuring three versions of Spidey including Tobey Maguire’s, Andrew Garfield’s and Tom Holland’s is very appealing to me. I’m surprised Sony can’t see the potential of that. It’d be pretty amazing to see.

Once again, I don’t know what’s in future for Spidey in the movies. But one thing’s for certain. I will always go back to the Tobey Maguire era of ‘Spider-Man’ as that was my era for me. I know people rate the recent ‘Spidey’ movies more highly than I do, but I find the original films to be the best versions.

I know people worry about these things regarding Spidey’s ongoing continuation in the ‘MCU’. But for me, it’s not much to worry about. I know it’s a pain, but there are other ‘Spider-Man’-related things to enjoy. And another thing’s for certain. I will always enjoy the other ‘Spider-Man’-related things as a fan.

I mean hey, I’m preparing a ‘Spider-Man’ project of my own in the future.

That’s something to tease you with. 😀 I’m also about to read something related to a certain PS4 game.

That’s something else to tease you with. 😀

Thanks for reading!

Bye for now!

Tim. 🙂

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