‘Echoes of Extinction’ (TLV) (Audio)


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The Network of Orriv with the Eighth and Tenth Doctors

For Stephen Critchlow

This might be considered the conclusion to the ‘Time Lord Victorious’ series of ‘Doctor Who’. 😐

Over my birthday weekend in May 2021, I revisited my ASDA-exclusive vinyl edition of ‘1963: Fanfare For The Common Men’, starring Peter Davison and Sarah Sutton. I enjoyed it very much. I also ventured into hearing the vinyl story ‘Echoes of Extinction’, which is part of the ‘Time Lord Victorious’ series. 🙂

This was more or less my first venture into ‘TLV’ before I checked out the other stories in the series. I did see the ‘Road to the Dark Times’ Blu-ray over the Christmas period from 2020 to 2021, but that was me revisiting certain classic ‘Doctor Who’ TV stories that were connected to the significant event.

‘Echoes of Extinction’ was the first original ‘TLV’ story I checked out. I didn’t know anything about what happened in adventures like ‘Defender of the Daleks’, ‘Monstrous Beauty’, ‘The Knight, the Fool and the Dead’, ‘He Kills Me, He Kills Me Not’, ‘The Enemy of My Enemy’, ‘All Flesh is Grass’, etc.

Of course, I got a chance to check out and review the other ‘TLV’ stories in 2021 in the build-up to the 58th anniversary of ‘Doctor Who’ as opposed to reviewing them for an Easter review season. At the time, I wanted to check out how ‘Echoes of Extinction’ stood on its own as an original vinyl story.

‘Echoes of Extinction’ by Alfie Shaw stars Paul McGann as the Eighth Doctor and David Tennant as the Tenth Doctor. With it being a vinyl, the story is divided into two episodes. ‘Part One’ features the Eighth Doctor and ‘Part Two’ features the Tenth Doctor. I purchased the vinyl from Amazon.co.uk. 🙂

Originally, the story was going to be released in November 2020 and sold at ASDA stores. Unfortunately, due to the Covid-19 pandemic, the story’s release got delayed to February 2021 and then to April 2021. It was released via Big Finish itself and Amazon. The fans must have been pleased. 🙂

Beforehand, I pre-ordered the story as a download from Big Finish. I own two copies of ‘Echoes of Extinction’, including the vinyl edition and the download version. The download version has behind-the-scenes interviews with some of the cast and crew, including Paul McGann and David Tennant. 🙂

On my birthday in May 2021, I wanted the chance to hear the story on vinyl and find out what it would be like to hear an original Big Finish audio tale on a vinyl release as opposed to a previous Big Finish audio like ‘1963: Fanfare For The Common Men’ re-released on vinyl. It was a pretty intriguing experience.

I was disappointed that Paul McGann and David Tennant’s Doctors didn’t get to meet each other in the story. It’s a shame as I would have liked to have heard Paul and David’s Doctors meeting each other. This is also like the only occasion David Tennant performs in a full-cast ‘TLV’ audio production.

The Tenth Doctor did cross paths with the Eighth and Ninth Doctors in ‘All Flesh is Grass’, but that was a book adventure, not a full-cast audio production. It’s amazing David Tennant performs in a Tenth Doctor story where the Tenth Doctor’s previous ‘TLV’ adventures weren’t audio productions.

‘Echoes of Extinction’ is on a single vinyl disc and the two episodes are on each side of the disc, lasting 29 minutes each or so. If the story was longer and on two vinyl discs, perhaps the meeting between Paul and David’s Doctors would have been guaranteed! I’d like to think that being the case.

In ‘Echoes of Extinction’, the two Doctors confront a haunted monster that wants to kill whatever victim it encounters. The Eighth Doctor meets this monster on a space station whilst the Tenth Doctor meets the monster on a planet called Oriv. Will our Doctors defeat this murderous monster?

It was intriguing to hear the two episodes and how they interconnected with each other with the two Doctors sorting out the menace called the Network. I believe ‘Echoes of Extinction’ is a story that needs to be heard more than once in order to get a firm grasp of what the overall plot is about.

I’m not sure how ‘Echoes of Extinction’ ties into the rest of the ‘TLV’ series. There are mentions of the Kotturuh and the Daleks by David Tennant’s Doctor, but they’re like quick and you’d miss it. Mind you, the placements of ‘Echoes of Extinction’ in the two Doctors’ timelines are very fascinating.

Paul McGann in ‘Echoes of Extinction’ (TLV).

For the Eighth Doctor, this story takes place before stories like ‘He Kills Me, He Kills Me Not’, ‘The Enemy of My Enemy’, ‘All Flesh is Grass’ and ‘Mutually Assured Destruction’. For the Tenth Doctor, this story takes place after stories like ‘The Knight, the Food and the Dead’ and ‘All Flesh is Grass’. 😀

Paul McGann and David Tennant deliver excellent performances as their Doctors, providing unique energies in how they play their characters. It’s a shame they’re not joined by any companions since they are travelling alone. Then again, their single episode adventures couldn’t accommodate that. 😐

Just on a side note, I’m more in favour of ‘Doctor Who’ adventures where the Doctor is joined by a companion as opposed to the Doctor travelling alone. I’m fine for companion-less ‘Doctor Who’ stories, but I find the ‘Doctor Who’ stories which have the Doctor with a companion more exciting. 🙂

The guest cast of ‘Echoes of Extinction’ is very good. In both episodes featuring the Eighth and Tenth Doctors, Burn Gorman is the voice of the Network. Burn Gorman is well-known for playing Owen Harper in ‘Torchwood’. It was hard to recognise Burn’s voice with it being distorted as the Network.

In the Eighth Doctor episode, Kathryn Drysdale guest stars as Jasmine. You may know her for playing Bliss in the ‘Doctor Who’ episode ‘Love & Monsters’. It was intriguing to hear the backstory delved into with how Jasmine got involved with the Network and how she soon became sort-of its prisoner.

Paul Clayton guest stars as the robot butler Edwards. Apparently, Paul Clayton played Mr. Bartle in the ‘Doctor Who’ episode ‘Planet of the Ood’. It was intriguing to hear Edwards’ involvement and how he was torn between the duties of serving Jasmine and the Network aboard the space station. 🙂

David Tennant in ‘Echoes of Extinction’ (TLV).

In the Tenth Doctor episode, Inès de Clercq guest stars as Captain Frye – I’m surprised they didn’t go with Captain Birdseye. 😀 In real-life, Inès is married to Arthur Darvill (who played Rory Williams in ‘Doctor Who’ and is in this adventure too). I think that this must be Inès de Clercq’s Big Finish debut.

Mina Anwar guest stars as Joshi in the episode. Mina is well-known for playing Gita Chandra in ‘The Sarah Jane Adventures’. It’s amazing that I’m hearing Mina Anwar in more Big Finish productions compared to seeing her in ‘SJA’. A pity her character Joshi gets killed and possessed by the Network.

Like I said, Arthur Darvill guest stars as Cooke in the story. It’s ironic to have Arthur Darvill appear in a Tenth Doctor adventure which is set before his character Rory Williams meets the Eleventh Doctor. Mind you, I wrote ‘The Robots of Lonmar’ featuring Arthur Darvill as a character, so what do I know?

Stephen Critchlow and Jacob Dudman, who have done Big Finishes before, also appear in this adventure. Stephen Critchlow, who I’ve seen in a ‘Monarch of the Glen’ episode, plays a general in this. Jacob Dudman, who has voiced the Tenth, Eleventh and Twelfth Doctors, plays a guard in this. 🙂

There’s also Melanie Stevens and Jack DeVos who voice some Orrivians in this adventure. I believe their scenes are recordings of Orrivians who accuse the Network of terrible things before they get killed. I wish that aspect of the story had been explored more. Putting the story on two vinyl discs would help.

‘Echoes of Extinction’ is an enjoyable audio adventure to listen to on vinyl as well as on download from Big Finish. I’m glad to have heard it both on my birthday in 2021 and lately from checking out the other ‘TLV’ stories. I wish Paul and David’s Doctors met each other in the story, but you can’t have it all.

As for ‘Time Lord Victorious’ overall, it’s a mixed bag at best. I appreciate the brave efforts into making a multi-platform story about the Tenth Doctor becoming the Time Lord Victorious, but it sometimes felt jarring when having to move from reading books to reading comics to hearing audio dramas.

I’m sure I’ve missed some stories out from checking out ‘TLV’ as well as some significant details that didn’t click in when checking out the series – please feel free to point them out to me. Otherwise, ‘TLV’ has been a fascinating albeit frustrating ‘Doctor Who’ event to check out and I have enjoyed it.

At the end of the download version of ‘Echoes of Extinction’ from Big Finish, there are behind-the-scenes interviews with the cast and crew including Paul McGann, David Tennant, director Scott Handcock, Burn Gorman, Kathryn Drysdale, Paul Clayton, Mina Anwar, Inès de Clercq, Arthur Darvill, etc.

‘Echoes of Extinction’ (TLV) rating – 7/10

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2 thoughts on “‘Echoes of Extinction’ (TLV) (Audio)

  1. Timelord 007

    I had a epic rant about this not getting a CD release if you remember Lol.

    I don’t do downloads or collect vinyls so I’ll take your word that this a decent audio drama.

    I find it bizarre that the two Doctor’s never meet because it feels like how it advertised they do.

    Great review Tim, detailed & informative, i guess this is one I’ll never hear.

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    1. Tim Bradley Post author

      Hi Simon.

      I recall you weren’t happy that ‘Echoes of Extinction’ didn’t get a CD release as well as a vinyl and digital release. Maybe one day they might re-release the story in a limited set of CDs. I’m sure you’d enjoy the story should you ever hear it.

      Many thanks for your comments. Glad you enjoyed my review.

      Tim 🙂



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