The Monk’s Timeline

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Here is ‘The Monk’s Timeline’.

I’ve referred to

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to help me put this version of the timeline together.

I’ve included all the TV stories, audios; books , comics and short stories into this list for now.

The (TV) and (Audio) stories are highlighted in DARK GREEN.

The (Book) stories are to remain un-highlighted for now.

The short stories are highlighted in DARK GREEN and/or ITALICS; and are CENTRED.

The stories with links to reviews by me on my blog are highlighted in BOLD and DARK GREEN.

Regarding the (Book) stories, I’ve identified each of them as follows in the KEY below.

KEY
*VNA – Virgin New Adventures
*PDA – Past Doctor Adventures

Regarding the (Audio) stories, I’ve identified each of them as follows in the KEY below.

KEY
**BFAD – Big Finish Audio Drama
**BFAB – Big Finish Audio Book
**PAB – Puffin Audio Book

Please feel free to ask questions about this timeline, as I intend to revisit this and add new stories to the list as time goes on.

I’ve divided the timeline into 4 phases
1. The Peter Butterworth Monk
2. The ‘Mortimus’ Monk
3. The Graeme Garden Monk
4. The Rufus Hound Monk


1. The Peter Butterworth Monk

The Monk’s appearance in ‘Divided Loyalties’ (Book) – PDA* takes place here.

1. The Time Meddler (TV)

The Peter Butterworth Monk appears in ‘Volcano’ (Episode 8); ‘Golden Death’ (Episode 9) and ‘Escape Switch’ (Episode 10) in 2. ‘The Daleks’ Master Plan’ (TV).

3. 4-Dimensional Vistas (Comic)
4. Follow That TARDIS! (Comic)


2. The ‘Mortimus’ Monk

The Monk’s appearance in ‘The Dimension Riders’ (Book) – VNA* takes place here.

5. No Future (Book) – VNA*


3. The Graeme Garden Monk

6. The Book of Kells (Audio) – BFAD**

The Graeme Garden Monk’s appearance in ‘The Resurrection of Mars’ during 7. ‘Deimos’/’The Resurrection of Mars’ (Audio) – BFAD** takes place here.

10. Lucie Miller/To the Death (Audio) – BFAD** 
11. The Secret History (Audio) – BFAD**

‘The Persistence of Memory’ (Penguin/Audio) – PAB**


3. The Rufus Hound Monk

12. The Black Hole (Audio) – BFAB**

‘The Blame Game’ (ST/Audio) – BFAB**

13. This Side of the Angels (from ‘Doom Coalition 4’ (Audio)) – BFAD**

‘How to Win Planets and Influence People’ (ST/Audio) – BFAB**

14. The Rise of the New Humans (Audio) – BFAB**


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7 thoughts on “The Monk’s Timeline

  1. I have always had very strong doubts that there was EVER a Time Lord called ‘The Monk’. Let us see:

    In ‘The Time Meddler’ the First Doctor encounters someone in a monastery wearing a monk’s outfit. It turns out that this “monk” is not a monk at all, but rather one of the Doctor’s own people who has DISGUISED HIMSELF AS A MONK for the purposes of this ONE scheme. He returns in ‘The Daleks’ Master Plan’ and attempts to get even with the Doctor. He is still dresse din the monk outfit in the same way that the main cast would begin one story wearing the outfit from the last story they were in.(Which also puts the lid on all those “seamless” Missing/Past Doctor Adventures.)

    He NEVER APPEARS AGAIN IN THE TELEVISION SERIES.

    Or does he? Butterworth is last seen swearing vengeance on the Doctor.

    Then, a few years later ANOTHER(?) Time Lord appears WITH NO APPARENT BACKSTORY(?). This one has RETURNED too get vengeance on the Doctor. The Doctor dismisses him as a “jackanapes”(a medieval word meaning a meddler!) His schemes involve meddling with time(eg. The Time Monster), disguising himself as a member of the church(eg. The Daemons) etc.

    The DWM preview for The King’s Demons said that the villain would be the villain from The Time Meddler….it turned out to be the Master.

    The FASA Doctor Who Modules, Games etc. all said straight out that “the monk” was JUST A ONE-OFF DISGUISE once used by the Master.

    Even a 1988 edition of Mastermind had one question that said straight out that “the Monk” = The Master.

    And let’s look at the Nu Series. Harold (the) Saxon as ruler of Britain, identity discovered when one of the Doctor’s companions discovers an anachronistic watch, no care for creating temporal paradoxes, a mischievous sense of humour….no, doesn’t remind you of anyone(?)

    Thank goodness(or something) then we had such superb pieces of literary pulp as ‘No Future’, ‘The Dark Path’ and ‘Divided Loyalties’ to “show us the truth”. Even if they can’t keep THAT “straight”.

    In ‘No Future’, it’s stated that “the Monk” is REALLY called ‘Mortimus’. He met the Doctor for the FIRST TIME EVER in ‘The Time Meddler(contradicting both the serial and the Target novelisation), and hasn’t seen the Doctor since The Daleks’ Master Plan “because he was stranded on the ice planet”. Even though he clearly wasn’t. He’s also apparently a CIA agent, an idea that is never brought up again.

    ‘Divided Loyalties’ has Theta Sigma and ‘Mortimus’ as CLOSE FRIENDS at the Academy, and ‘Mortimus’ leaves Gallifrey BEFORE the Doctor.

    ‘The Book of Kells’ through ‘To The End’ have the Doctor and ‘the Monk’ having met each other “for the first time ever” in ‘The Time Meddler’, “the Monk” having left Gallifrey fifty years AFTER the Doctor, and the two not having seen each other since The Daleks’ Master Plan. Oh yes, and EVERYBODY calls him ‘the Monk’, including him introducing himself as such.

    Then, in the SIXTH Doctor Audio, the Doctor and the Rani discuss their time at the Acdemy with the Deca, including ‘Mortimus’.

    In ‘The Secret History’ ‘it is then stated that the Doctor is THE ONLY ONE who calls the other Time Lord ‘the Monk’. This after him having REPEATEDLY introduced HIMSELF as “the Monk” in the fourth series of the NEDAs.

    Can it get even more ludicrous? In ‘The Black Hole’ the Second Doctor meets ‘the Monk’. The character points out that he has worn multiple disguises and that WHEN THE DOCTOR FIRST MET HIM HE WAS DISGUISED AS A MONK. For no apparent reason, he then changes back into the monk outfit. However, Pavo, who was no part of the Hartnell television episodes starts calling him ‘the Monk’ as his Time Lord name! Why? Yes, the DOCTOR’S memory of this abomination is wiped, but not ‘the Monks'”…..

    Hound’s “Monk” apparently shows up again in a Pertwee Short Trip which i haven’t heard, and possibly a Tom Baker one as well. This “Monk” will also be in the forthcoming ‘Doom Coalition 4’.

    Let’s say it like it is: Butterworth’s character was NEVER called ‘the Monk’ the way Hartnell’s is called ‘the Doctor’. It’s like Delgado being ‘the Abjudicator’ or AInley being ‘the Portreeve’. And there is NO REASON IN HELL for the character after TDMP to EVER be called ;’the Monk’ or ever DISGUISE himself as a monk ever ever again.

    And, up to the godawful Virgin novels, nobody EVER thought of either doing a monk “sequel” or a “Master origin story”. Funny that, eh? The Big Finish Audios with Garden and Hound all hopelessly contradict themselves, each other, and the television serials they’re supposed to act as “sequels” to. Worse still, Big Finish have tried to incorporate the novels into their continuity, resulting in ever more ludicrous tangles of stupidity. All because someone at Big Finish actually thinks that there is a Time Lord called ‘the Meddling Monk’. Imagine that….”Hello, I’m the Meddling Monk!”

    *4-Dimensional Vistas has the Butterworth incarnation NOT dressed as a monk, and the “m” word is never used. Plus, the DWm people always felt that Time Lords can and do meet “out-of-sequence”, as later confirmed by the television series.

    **’Follow That TARDIS’ is a hopeless spoof/comedy spot, no more or less canonical than the Lenny Henry sketch or The Curse of Fatal Death.

    Eventually you have to just say “Screw it!” and jettison all the rubbish from your (personal) canon. You can try and pretend that this “timeline” makes ANY sort of sense, and isn’t a crime against anyone with a functioning brain, but for me…..it’s clear. Butterworth ultimately regenerated into Roger Delgado. We don’t “need” Garden or Hound, and frankly I don’t WANT them either. They insult my intelligence, and they insult the classic television series that they’re supposed to be adding to.

    “The Monk” doesn’t exist as the NAME of a Time Lord. It was just a one-off disguise, once used by the Master very very long ago.

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  2. So, in essence..

    Mortimus is the same age as the Doctor, attends the Academy with him, where they are very good friends, and both members of the Deca. Mortimus becomes a monk on Gallifrey(despite Gallifrey having abolished the monasteries before he was even born/loomed), and also spends an extensive amount of time working for the CIA. Mortimus leaves Gallifrey before the Doctor, right out of the Academy..

    While travelling with Vicki and Steven, the Doctor meets another Time Lord, who he has never met before. This other Time Lord, who is disguised as a monk, despite also being a monk himself. This ‘Monk’ left Gallifrey fifty years after the Doctor This Time Lord is none other than the Doctor’s dear old friend Mortimus, who he has never seen before they first meet in 1066. Here, the Monk plans to annihilate the entire Viking fleet with an atomic warhead, because he is a harmless, childlike meddler, who is more comical than dangerous. The Doctor shrinks his TARDIS’ interior to the size of a doll’s house. He quickly fixes the problem, because he is an utterly inept moron.

    Later, the two meet up again, in Ancient Egypt, both instantly recognising each other as former Deca chums, and also having only the barest recognition from the events of 1066. The Doctor steals the ‘Meddling Monk’s’ directional control. After landing on an ice planet, the ‘Meddling Monk’ vows revenge on the Doctor, as his TARDIS leaves the ice planet, but with him having no control over where or when it will arrive. And, at the same time Mortimus is stranded on the ice planet for an eternity.

    Later, the Time Meddler meets the Fifth Doctor.

    However, later, earlier, something…he returns to an eleventh century monastery…this time in Ireland. The Eighth Doctor hasn’t seen the Monk since the events of The Daleks’ Master Plan. They both confirm that they had never seen each other before 1066. And that they haven’t seen each other since Ancient Egypt. And that the Monk left Gallifrey fifty years after the Doctor. And that he really is called ‘the Monk’.

    There are some more Eight/Monk adventures, involving Lucie Miller, in which Lucie dies.And Susan’s son. Because the Monk is more playful than dangerous.

    Then, this same incarnation of the Monk meets the Fifth, Sixth and Seventh Doctors. Here, when one of the Doctors refers to him as ‘the Monk’, the Monk says that the Doctor is the only one who calls him ‘the Monk’.

    Also, upon meeting up with the Rani, the Sixth Doctor and the Rani reminisce about their time in the Deca, including their dear old friend Mortimus.

    Of course, the Second Doctor met another incarnation of the Monk. Upon meeting, the Monk says that he is not, and never was, a monk. He was merely disguised as a monk when he first met the Doctor for the first time ever. Which is why the Doctor calls him ‘the Meddling Monk’. Then, for no reason whatsoever, he starts dressing as a monk, despite being on a space station at the time. And then Pavo starts referring to him as ‘the Monk’ as well, which is never explained.

    This same incarnation also does the circuit, meeting multiple incarnations of the Doctor, including the Eighth, and now universally known as ‘the Monk’ after all.

    Timey wimey wibbly wobbly? Or just pointless?

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    • How could I have forget ‘No Future’? Mortimus meets the Doctor for only the third time ever, after having been stranded on an ice planet for an eternity, despite not actually having been stranded at all. This was the Seventh Doctor btw, who hadn’t seen Mortimus since his Hartnell incarnation…

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      • Hi Andrew

        Thanks for sharing your insight about the Monk.

        I’ll have to check out all the Monk stories in chronological order to understand the full picture of this character.

        Tim. 🙂

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  3. I have been re-reading old Who books. Now working my way through Short Trips: The Centenarian.

    The “1936” section(where the Doctor and Peri go to the FA Cup Final) features a character who seems eerily like the Television Butterworth character.

    Of course, with the one-dimensional Garden and Hound performances, this is now the ‘wrong’ interpretation. But, if you just watch The Time Meddler and The Daleks’ Master Plan, ignore the Wilderness Years novels (as was Big Finish policy at the time), and then read that Chapter, who else could it be?

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    • Hi Andrew.

      Thanks for letting me know about this. I’ve yet to read ‘The Centenarian’ Short Trips collection, but your thoughts about this character that seems to be like the Monk in the story you mentioned sound interesting. I’ll have to get a copy of ‘The Centenarian’ Short Trip collection soon to find out more.

      Many thanks.

      Tim. 🙂

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